I was fascinated with the idea of freestanding pieces as sculpture. I had made some with stained glass. Now for another challenge. The process led me to one large installation in Manchester, New Hampshire, one a light wall that was once the end of an alley between two buildings. Using rectilinear design on one side and freeform design on the other created a combination of the two which was quite dynamic. To create colored focus points in the design I would use UV glue to glue on pieces of dichroic glass and small round colored pieces. The gluing took on a life of it's own and led me to create three dimension sections using dichroic glass. In 1986 I was one of the first to use dichroic glass in glass sculpture. It continues to this day.